July 26, 2011

  • Dealing with Sin in the Church by Pastor Don

    Taught May 27, 2011

    Before we began, Pastor Don prayed out the Spirit of Offense.  Someone asked about suicide and if a person who committed suicide could be forgiven or was it a mortal sin.

    Matthew 16:21-23 From that time Jesus began to show to His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day. Then Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, “Far be it from You, Lord; this shall not happen to You!”  But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.”

    Pastor Don pointed out that offense has a good and a bad side.  We can be offended at inconsequential things, or we can be offended by the things that are not of God’s Kingdom or plan.  Sometimes in the Church we are trying so hard to be inclusive and loving that we overlook things that are not of God, sins in the Church that need to be addressed.

    1 Corinthians 5:1 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and such sexual immorality as is not even named among the Gentiles—that a man has his father’s wife!

    Paul became aware about a situation in the church of Corinth that was so bad, that not even the pagans would permit it.  A man was having sex with his father’s wife.  We have to assume it was the father’s second wife, not the mother of the son for that would be incest.  

    1 Corinthians 5:2 And you are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he who has done this deed might be taken away from among you.

    You are proud and not dealing with this to remove the sin.  This church fell into the same error that is evident in many churches today, we think of God as forgiving sins, and therefore any sin will be forgiven.  God does not condone sin and there will be judgment.  When a person is saved, their lives should begin to look more and more like what God wants for them.  We do sin even after we are born again, but we need to repent and move beyond the sin.  We are works in process. God will not condone this circumstance. It needs to be addressed for the sin of this man can affect the whole church. In churches we cannot overlook sin and what is against the Word of God, we are to judge and deal with the sin.

    1 Corinthians 5:3 For I indeed, as absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged (as though I were present) him who has so done this deed

    Even Paul, from a distance has judged this as sin that cannot be condoned.  We are not to be soft on sin – we can love the sinner, but not condone the sin. When someone is dealing with private sin, we want to get into their lives, help them fix themselves back up and get back into the race.  We win them with love, but point out the sin.  Paul’s already judged this sin, and the Church in Corinth should have done something about it.

    1 Corinthians 5:4-5  In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

    We need to remove the covering of protection from over the person.  God is not required to protect a person in disobedience.  With the cover of protection removed, the effects of his sin and satan’s actions will begin to affect the person.  The enemy, satan may kill the body of the person, but they will still maintain their salvation. But the destruction of the body can prevent further sin.  It seems harsh, but is really loving.  And who knows, maybe the person will be shocked back into obedience to God as they face the repercussions of their sin. If the person sticks close to God and doesn’t reject their salvation, they will still have their spirit enter Heaven.  

    When you are saved, your spirit is saved, but your flesh (mind, will, and emotions) still needs to come under obedience to God.  That is a process that occurs as we turn more and more of our lives over to God.  If our heart is right, the flesh will at some point come under control of the spirit.

    We are told to confess our sins one to another, to repent (which means to turn 180 degrees around) and change.  We may still be in sin, but if we are repenting and making steps toward change that is vastly different from deliberately choosing sin.  God knows our heart.

    If a person deliberately sins and doesn’t repent, and the Church says nothing to them, it affects the whole congregation.  If one man sleeps with his father’s wife, and nothing is done, the congregation sees that and some other members may wonder what else they could do and get away with.

    1 Corinthians 5:6 Your glorying is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump

    This one man’s sin affects the whole Body and the sin will spread in the church if not addressed.

    2 Corinthians 5:7-13 Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us. Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.  I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people.  Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person. For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”

    The person must be judged and removed from the congregation so his sin does not spread.  We know that there is sin in the world, but when sin enters the church, it is important for it to be judged.  If the person refuses to change their behavior, to repent of their sin, for their own good and the good of the congregation they must be asked to leave.

    Is it forever?  Not always.  In this case, the man changed and Paul asked the church to accept him back into the congregation.

    2 Corinthians 2:1-3  But I determined this within myself, that I would not come again to you in sorrow. For if I make you sorrowful, then who is he who makes me glad but the one who is made sorrowful by me?  And I wrote this very thing to you, lest, when I came, I should have sorrow over those from whom I ought to have joy, having confidence in you all that my joy is the joy of you all.

    Paul writes to the people that he didn’t want to come to them until he knew that they were in obedience to God and he could come to them happy.  He didn’t want to beat them up.

    2 Corinthians 2:4  For out of much affliction and anguish of heart I wrote to you, with many tears, not that you should be grieved, but that you might know the love which I have so abundantly for you

    Paul sent the letter of correction because he loved them.  He had to address the sin so that it stopped it from becoming a greater problem for the church. Public sin needs to be addressed publicly, but if a person is in private sin one can address it privately with the person, so it doesn’t become public sin. 

    2 Corinthians 2:5-6  But if anyone has caused grief, he has not grieved me, but all of you to some extent—not to be too severe. This punishment which was inflicted by the majority is sufficient for such a man

    The church in Corinth listened to Paul and everyone in the church addressed the sin.  But even with such a banishment, the punishment, according to Paul is not to be too severe, just sufficient to pull the man back in obedience to God.

    2 Corinthians 2:7-9  so that, on the contrary, you ought rather to forgive and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one be swallowed up with too much sorrow. Therefore I urge you to reaffirm your love to him. For to this end I also wrote, that I might put you to the test, whether you are obedient in all things

    Now that the man has changed his behavior, Paul instructs the church to forgive and comfort the man so that he is not overwhelmed by sorrow and he be driven away from God.  

    Not only was this man judged, but the Church was judged and passed the test, of addressing sin.  Paul says the church is not to be overly hard on this man.

    2 Corinthians 2:10  Now whom you forgive anything, I also forgive. For if indeed I have forgiven anything, I have forgiven that one for your sakes in the presence of Christ

    If the church forgives him, Paul forgives him too, in the presence of Christ.

    Why?

    2 Corinthians 2:11 lest Satan should take advantage of us; for we are not ignorant of his devices.

    We need to be wise and aware of satan’s devices and not let him take advantage of us.

    2 Corinthians 2:12 Furthermore, when I came to Troas to preach Christ’s gospel, and a door was opened to me by the Lord,

    Paul was able to continue preaching the Gospel, and doors were opened because Paul acted in obedience to God.

     

    There is the possibility of the covering of God being removed from people because of unrepented sin. If people do not obey and examine their lives to see what sins need to be dealt with, the covering is removed and their lives become a mess.  Instead of recognizing that it is their sin causing the problem, the person could begin to think that the world was against them. When the man began to repent, he began to come more in alignment with God’s plan.

    Pastor Don pointed out that sometimes a person makes a bad decision.  If a person decides to kill themselves it is because of the influence of satan.  We don’t know what happens in a person’s mind between the act of suicide and their death.  It is possible that they repent of their act and either someone comes to save them and their lives are turned around, or they die, but are still saved for they turned to God.  We won’t know, because there may be others who do the same act and don’t repent, don’t turn to God and their outcome is hell.

    Workers of iniquity and evil sin in a premeditated way, and they do not desire to repent or change their ways.  There is a difference between workers of iniquity and a person who is a sinner who succumbed in a moment of weakness. 

    We know that in the presence of the Lord the heart changes.  We can’t know what happens in a person’s spirit, we can see the flesh, but we can’t see their last encounter with God.  

    God is the one who knows the ultimate end of a person’s life.

    I hope this helps you.  Pastor preached a sermon on this recently.  I will try to find it and put the transcript up for you for further edification.

    Praying your day is awesome.

    Heather

     

Comments (2)

  • Please guide me !
    I have a question. I am a baby just trying to walk with GOD after 58 year’s of my life. I understand that I was forgiven for my sin’s when I was baptized and through the blood and body of my savior Jesus. And I understand I have to do penance for any sin’s I might have committed after. Although my sin’s are minor my question is how to do penance that is exceptionable to GOD. I had seen a movie (which I know wasn’t real) where a man who thought he was doing work of the Lord’s which had caused him to sin and he chose to do penance by wiping himself with leather straps till his back bled (I think the movie was The Dev. Code) I don’t think Jesus want’s me to do that because he had already went through that for me. So I’m left with the question. Do I start to service in a food bank, homeless shelter or meals on wheels? Are they excepted for penance? If not what is and how long do I have to do it.
    I am a disabled women for many many years with a very limited income to live on. With the expense of gas, food and medical care I can only afford $50.00 for gas to last all month long. The Sunday service I go to is 62 miles away from my apartment and that’s one way. I can’t afford to go every Sunday so I try twice (2) a week.
    Can someone give me some readings from the book of words that can help direct me in the proper way ?
    Sincerely, Rose Cervizzi ( rcervizzi@yahoo.com )

  • @rcervizzi - 

    Rose, thank you for your confidence in asking this of me. If I were there, I would put my arms around you and hug you to let you know how much you are loved. Your heart and your pain is so apparent.

    There is one Bible verse that Pastor Don always pulled out for me when I went to him in counseling and worried about sins I did in my past and sins that I might do in the future or recently did.

    1 John 1:9 “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”

    There is no mention of penance – we need to believe God – Believe His Word. We confess our sin, ask God’s forgiveness and we are forgiven. Period – We can’t earn it – Jesus did the work for us. We can just accept this great gift. Of course, repenting means a sincere desire to stop what we are doing that is displeasing to God and replace it with something Godly, but even in that we are not perfect.

    No one is perfect, we all sin. My sins today are different from the ones I did before I got saved, and I am trying to improve my life so that I sin less and less, but God knows we are dust, and that we do sin. Our goal is to let the Holy Spirit take over our lives more and more until we become closer to God’s best for us.

    God does not like sin, but He doesn’t see our sins when we put them under the Blood of Christ. He sees His Son. We are righteous because of Him, not because of anything that we do or don’t do. God sees your heart and He desires that you continue to seek Him, read His Word, and learn about Him. The more you know about Him and His Word, is how our faith grows and how we begin to replace our old thinking with the renewed thoughts mentioned in Romans 12:1-2.

    Rose, God loves you. He loves you passionately and He is thrilled you came to Him. He is the one who can help to clean your life, and He will do it lovingly. He won’t strip everything away at once, but the more you put His word in your life, the more you seek Him, as time goes on, He will change you. One day you will look back and see how far you came.

    Pastor likes to do an illustration – using a cup of muddy water. There is no way to separate the mud from the water, they are mixed together. But you can take clean water (the Word of God) and pour it into the glass, and as time goes on the muddy water overflows the glass and the more clean water goes in, there comes a point where the water in the glass is clean – and you can drink it. The more Word you put in your life, the less room there is for things that are not pleasing to God. The Word crowds out the sin.

    I used to worry about my sins and the things I did, and I did a lot of terrible things before I got saved, but what it boiled down to for me is that I had a choice. I could either believe God really forgave my sins or I could call Him a liar. Jesus paid the price for us.

    Regarding good works, as we receive His love, we will extend that love to others, we can’t help ourselves. But love doesn’t have to be a job like meals on wheels- unless you want one. Love can also be a kind word, a smile, helping out at the church you go to, praying for people, an encouraging phone call to someone who could use a positive word. But if you do or don’t do works will not change His love for you. I think the works show how much He loves us and we overflow and give to others from His great outpouring of love.

    It is NOT Biblical the idea of whipping one’s self as penance, for if we do that aren’t we saying that Jesus didn’t suffer enough for us on the cross and with the beatings He received? Jesus did it ALL, there is nothing we can do to make God loves us more than He does.

    You might want to read the book of John and read it thinking about each encounter Jesus had with people – see His love for them. Think about the woman at the well and the woman caught in adultery – these were serious sins but Jesus gave love. I might consider reading the Love chapter. 1 Corinthians 13 – and everywhere it says Love -(mercy/charity) replace it with God or Jesus or the Holy Spirit, and know that God loves you that way.

    Jeremiah 31:3 “The LORD has appeared of old to me, saying:“ Yes, I have loved you with an everlasting love; Therefore with lovingkindness I have drawn you.”

    God loves us. I had a horrific father and it took me a long time to see that God is not anything like my earthly father. He is a Father who Loves, and Jesus said that if we see Him, we see the Father.

    I would soak in the Word of God, and realize that Jesus did everything for us, we are forgiven – past, present and future. And as we accept His love, our Love will cause us to begin to be more like Him, to imitate our Father. And He appreciates every little step we make toward that goal.

    I hope that helps. Feel free to write.

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