August 1, 2006
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Heather steps up on soapbox:
Some of you may wonder about how often I mention Pastor Don in my posts. It is not putting him on a pedestal. It is true that I do mention his name a lot, but thought I would give you my philosophy of posting. I believe in giving credit where credit is due. If I read something in a book, I quote the book and author. If I hear a great Bible study, I make sure that people know that it is not my work that I am sharing, but the notes from my Bible study. If I get something from a daily devotional or another blog I will quote the source. The studies I am doing in Genesis are a lot of my own study and research, but when I get information from other sources, I quote it. I think that is the honest thing to do. My feeling is that the Bible studies of our church are high quality and so I share them frequently.
As is often the case among Christians, there are differences in doctrine. I share what I have learned that is Biblical to me. You may not realize this, but there are Bible studies that I have notes for that I do not share here on Xanga. If I can’t find the agreement in the Bible for the material, or something does not seem right to me, I do not write the notes. So far Pastor Don has consistently taught the Word in an incredible way.
You should know a bit about him. Many times when he is mentoring me, I thank him for how much he has done for me. I tell him that without his love and kindness I would not be saved. I believe this, but every time I tell him that, he points out that it is God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit that did the work, he was just an instrument. This man is very humble and sweet. He also, as my husband says, is like a professor of the Bible. I am still amazed that with any question posed to him he can go to the Bible and find chapter and verse to back his comments. No amount of note taking on my part can cover all that he shares in Bible study. You are just getting the highlights.
One thing that often surprises me is when someone starts tearing apart a person’s testimony, looking for mistakes in theology or mis-understandings about God in their testimony! I don’t get it, instead of rejoicing and building a person up because of the wonderful work God has done in their lives, they take the fire that God built in the person and douse it with the water of their opinions. Most of you who have read my testimony rejoice at how much God has done in my life and how much God has impacted my life. When I wrote my testimony I was still young in faith, and I guess if I re-wrote it I would change some things because of learning more about God, but I also think there is value in keeping a testimony as it is, raw and unedited. When someone has made a big change – say from the occult to God, rejoice, do not nit-pick their theology. There is time enough to help them grow in God later. And I think that a person needs to realize that as one grows in faith, walks with God on a daily basis, their opinions about God will change. God ceases to be a distant figure and a relationship is formed. God will make sure that the person’s view of him changes to match the truth about God. In fact I would worry if God did not change a person over time. If they were set in stone, not progressing that would make me wonder.
And different doctrines and the posturing that goes along with it is like chalk squeaking on a blackboard to me. There is NO DENOMINATION or church that has everything 100% right, and that includes ours. Pastor Don has changed some of his thinking on teachings based on what the Holy Spirit shows him. An example is in his book mentioned above, just go and open up the pages on Amazon and you will read how the change came about. We are all rough stones in the temple of God, and we are being shaped by each other, by the Word, by the Holy Spirit, by Jesus, by our choices, and by God to be smoother. None of us are perfect, if we were perfect we would not be here on earth.
Sometimes when I respond to a person, I do not always quote scripture. It is not always necessary. I am not on a debate team, we are not butting heads together. If you read my Bible studies and my notes, I think it is apparent that there is scripture in it – every time you see italic it is a Bible verse, and to make life easier for you, I tend to quote the relevant verses so that you do not have to dig out your Bibles and look them up. I hope it is helpful, but I feel that teachings must mirror what the Bible says. And in that, it cannot be an isolated quote, you need the whole counsel of scripture. Sometimes in our studies we stick with certain passages, favorite teachings, but that is not all that God is showing. In my own reading of the Bible I start in Genesis and read to Revelation – I do not put a time frame on my reading – 3 chapters a day, etc. Sometimes it is a few verses, sometimes it is a few chapters. It just depends. But I do not skip around in my personal study. God somehow seems to show me something relevant where ever I am reading. And I think that it is like a prescription, the Bible is put together in an order that is the right order to read. I do not skip passages, even the begats as you saw in a previous post contain the Gospel.
I know that when we are taught to think a certain way, to view the scriptures through a certain denominational lens, when someone says something that varies from that it seems so wrong. I am certain that there are wrong doctrines out there, and yet, I have found the Bible to be so deep a book that the same passage can be seen many ways. Best example is the parables – the common people heard the story, the disciples got some of the meaning behind the parables, and then later on realized more of what Jesus was saying. We can be like the scribes and Pharisees and debate and nit-pick each doctrinal point, or we can choose to look beyond the differences and see the heart of a post. That is our choice. That being said, there are some things that cannot be overlooked. If someone is stating that Jesus is not Lord, that He did not die for our sins and raise up from the dead, or any of the important main doctrinal points of Christianity, that is something different and is to be contested. Jesus was not an angel, etc.
Yes, we can tear each other apart, and try to figure out who has the best doctrine. I suspect satan loves that, for when we infight among ourselves we are less effective in God’s kingdom. If we are focused on where each other has got it wrong, we are not doing any good in advancing God’s Kingdom, and those who are not saved are seeing us infight.
I trust that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit will correct errors in thinking. When we were babies and we talked, if we made errors in grammar our parents did not correct us, they were happy we were trying to get the words out. As we grow older, and read the Word more, and hear the Word of God taught, we will self-correct errors. Sometimes to prove one is right and tear down a person is far worse than walking alongside and showing them by example the right way.
I hope you are hearing my heart in this. I see this kind of behavior not only on my site but on other sites on Xanga too. We need to walk in love, and the rest will sort itself out. We have a big God, He is big enough to correct us when we make a mistake. Also, when I make a mistake and find out about it, I am eager to correct my mistake.
I think too we have to go where we find we glean the most fruit in our walk with God. While one person may find their pastor the best one for them, another may not. We cannot go from pastor to pastor, church hop from church to church. Sometimes we have to stay where we are, learn until the Holy Spirit directs us that we need to move on. Some of our best lessons are learned in tough situations at church. Pastor Don has been such a good role model, pastor, shepherd, servant, and friend that I choose to stay at this church. His teachings are sound and bear much fruit in my life and the lives of many others. And I also take Bible studies by Kay Arthur and Beth Moore. These studies also bear out what Pastor Don has taught. With so much confirmation, I feel secure in sharing Pastor Don’s teachings.
Heather steps off of soap box.
Hope you stay cool. I have to go and practice for my talk on Sunday, pray for me please that God helps me to teach about testing. He gave me a new sentence today that cracked me up about His tests – they are open book(The Bible).
Have a blessed night.
Heather
Comments (24)
Open book test! That is cute! The Holy Spirit does tutoring! He will remind you of every word. (John 14:26) I do see your heart in your writing here. I see a heart filled with wonder. I see a heart saved from death. I see a heart filled with love and a desire to share the Good News. I see a friend and a sister in Christ. I see you, Heather. Thanks for sharing. Know that you are loved and lifted up in prayer. Know that you have a friend in Texas. Old Hat
Precious HEather,
I marvel at all God has done in your dear life…I marvel at all He continues to do…I am overjoed to read the things God has taught you in your own personal times with HIM and through other people like Pastor Don or Beth Moore. Thank you for sharing your heart with us! How much we need to be the real deal–a people who walk in love. Yes, it is the authenticating mark of a life transformed! I recall a song we sang when I was a youth…”And they’ll know we are Christians by our love, by our love…Yes, they’ll know we are Christians by our love…” I am responsible for walking in the truth I have been exposed to…And as 1 Samuel 12:23 says. “But God forbid that I should sin against God by failing to pray for you…” Oh, yes, if we would commit ourselves to pray for one another instead of disagreeing, what a change would occur in the body of Christ! What an impact we would have on a watching world!
With much love and many prayers,
Paula
Move over, Heather, I want to get on the band stand with you!!!! You said it right!!! and I totally agree with you, sweet sister. And then sweet Paula said everything I wanted to say, so we are all in agreement.
As “they” say, “YOU ROCK”!!!!!
love u…..
I apologize for not giving your teaching the attention it deserves or your last few posts. I’ve said it before, Heather, you write too much too well too fast
I can’t keep up. I’m still thinking about Jacob!
Anyway, I just wanted to say that the first thing that popped into my head when I was skimming through this(I’m supposed to be tucking my boy in bed!)was,
“I love you, Heather.”
Just that. Plain and simple.
You bless me with the gift God gave you that you so selflessly share.
How’s the hip, btw?
I like knitting too! But I don’t do anything a person might wear. I do dishrags and little blankets.
My thought is sometimes we forget who the real enemy is. It isn’t each other. We are on the same team.
I just love to see how God uses us each differantly to share His Word! None of us will ever be the same because we all think differantly and understand things differantly. And I believe that is why God says to love one another…To Love Your neighbor as Yourself! Have a Blessed Tuesday……..In Christ’s Love…..Monic
Hi Heather,
Cody is going to work with me so he can drive. I know what you mean about praying really hard. Glad that your kids seem to be enjoying their summer.
Love ya, Darlena
“And I think that a person needs to realize that as one grows in faith, walks with God on a daily basis, their opinions about God will change. God ceases to be a distant figure and a relationship is formed. God will make sure that the person’s view of him changes to match the truth about God. In fact I would worry if God did not change a person over time. If they were set in stone, not progressing that would make me wonder.”
Even among your readership, I have seen people close off this avenue to me. And I’m so grateful for your sharing AND Pastor Don’s teaching… because I see the Biblical truth here, too, and it helps me to change and grow in the Father. This was FANTASTIC.
((Except the ‘we’re not to debate’ thing. I believe it *is* our calling, but that’s a bull for another pen.))
Thank you all! Anna, there is debate and DEBATE. There is debate when you are not going to listen to your fellow debater and you want to just show how much you know that you can beat another person down with, and then there is a DEBATE that is a free and exciting sharing of ideas to try to figure out the absolute truth of an area. You are the second kind of debater, and that is a good kind.
Heather
‘too much’ in the very best sense!
*worries that my words failed to translate*
you are just right, Heather. Thank you!
Thank you Heather,well said. When we get to heaven all the doctrinal issues will not matter,will they? We’ll be worshipping Jesus for eternity. We need to know what we believe and why.Every day is an open book test,we have to study the book in order to pass the test! Loveya sister! Becky
The majority of time when people begin to nit-pic at other’s different theological views it seems to be to take a rabbit trail from the simple truths that stand out in the gospel. Jesus Christ is God. He died for our sins, defeated sin and death and was resurrected on the third day. He accended to heaven where He sits at the right hand of His Father interceding on our behalf and still very active in the lives of His followers. He is coming again to receive His own. Trusting on Him is the only way anyone will ever get into heaven.
Titus 3:9 warns us to “Avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.”
I don’t think this was said to encourage us to believe and accept what anyone and everyone says about the scriptures, but as you have said it encourages us to study to make ourselves approved and fruitful for the kingdom of God. I think one of the things that deters more people from the church than anything else is the constant bickering from within. Sadly, it’s usually not even done with gentleness and respect, but usually with spite, arrogance and condemnation. Okay, done with the rant.
I appreciate all that you have shared over the last few months Heather and am blessed to have “just happened upon” your site… yeah, like I believe in coincidences!
Hope you have a great day ~Sherry
Very well said Heather.
Amen Heather.
Yesterday I took my daughter driving, she just received her permit. The poor thing wound up on the curb in the grass twice. She’s my third student in driving, and this winding up on the grass stuff is a first! LOL I kind of think I’m going to leave the driving up to Dad from now on. Ha ha! Blessings! ~Amelia
I always thought it was a great way to honor Pastor Don by your recalling of one of his teachings. I know I would be honored if someone somewhere were typing “Pastor Steve taught me…”
May grace & peace be yours!
Steve
Oh my! I can’t imagine driving in an un-air-conditioned car in this heat!!!!! The heat index is 112 degrees today. I stepped outside and thought I was going to suffocate…decided my errands could wait for another day. Stay cool! ~ jenny
Just curious… how hot is hot, hot, hot, where you are…
‘Cause it’s been 99 degrees lately, where I am, and there is no way I could have enjoyed sitting outdoors to do anything today.
I had to go out today just 15 minutes from home in my un-air-conditionied car and I thought I was going to die, it was so sweltering hot sitting at traffic lights… can barely breathe when you just go outside…
Heather,
I’m glad to read this post, and I want you to know that I agree with you on everything that you said, here. Also, or more importantly, I come here because I have seen that everything that you type and discuss is backed by scripture and turned over and over to see the truth in it. For you, it doesn’t matter who says it or how good or bad it feels….if it is based in scripture and supported by it, then it should be held as reliable for us to base our lives on and to support our lives with.
If I didn’t find that you base everything that you post upon what is found in scripture…and scripture that is not taken out of context…I wouldn’t be here.
Thanks for what you share with us everyday.
John
I think it is wonderful that you give your pastor honor! The Word makes it plain we are to give double honor to them that labor in the Word and rule well!
In this day of everyone wanting to be “even”, it is refreshing to read words from someone who appreciates their pastor and holds them in high esteem. That is what the Lord wants us to do…you don’t have to apologize or explain yourself to anyone!
I very much appreciate all that you shared here, Heather. I read a lot of devotionals by a lot of Christian brothers & sisters. I don’t always agree with what everyone says all of the time, & would be surprised if everyone always agrees with me; but I do appreciate the spirit of love and of unity that may exist amongst us. I also appreciate that you shared your way of crediting those from whom you quote. I too, indicate Scripture by italic (& bold type), & with the reference and version of Scripture (or with a link to the Scripture that pops up in another window – as below). And when I quote an author, it is only right to credit that one. I have been so blessed by you, your testimony, and the things that you share. I can truly say that Heather ~ I certainly do love you in our precious Lord, though we have never met in person. Keep up the good work. ~ Carolyn
Amen, preach on!
Well said and yes, straight from the heart!! Though I do not know you personally, I enjoy reading your post. I LOVE to study God’s Word and I fully enjoy reading your study notes…thanks for sharing!
I am of the thinking that people who nit pic have too much time on there hands and need to volunteer their time somewhere so as to be more productive !
Your soap box speech contained alot of truth. Thank goodness that God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are not bound by the restrictions we place around things. He CAN and WILL change our perception of things in HIS timing and in HIS gentle way! Keep up the good works!
Your heart is so beautiful. God shines through even in what you write for the cyber-world to read. Thank you for these wise and Spirit-led reflections.